The CCIO interview: Ayesha Rahim, Lancashire Care NHS FT
- 12 March 2018

This week we’re chatting with Ayesha Rahim, chief clinical information officer and deputy medical director ofĀ Lancashire Care NHS Foundation Trust. Ayesha tells us why the NHS needs to “skill-up” its leaders if it hopes to achieve true digital transformation, and explains why empowering patients is the key to exceptional healthcare.
She also floats the idea of a 24-hour cheese cafe, which we are definitely not going to steal…
Why did you become an NHS CCIO?
Iāve always felt that the key to improving the quality of care for patients is to allow staff to do the jobs they trained to do in the most efficient way possible. Technology can be a great enabler of this, and so when this job came up at my trust I felt that this was a fantastic opportunity to be a part of something that is starting to get the resource and attention it needs.
Iāve now been in post for 6 months and am loving it!
When did your interest in IT begin?
Tech at home has always been a part of my life since being a child. I remember very clearly getting our first family computer (an Amstrad) for Christmas one year. I also recall my dad having one of the first mobile phones which looked like a brick (and was about as heavy too). As time has gone on I got involved in IT projects at work, and realised the importance of clinical input in developing these systems right from the start.
Within your organisation, what is the most significant digital achievement of the past 12 months?
Weāve just gone live with a new EPR in the first clinical service of our trust as part of a staggered roll-out. The previous main clinical system was developed in-house and has been embedded in the organisation for the last decade or so.
This new one represents a significant step forward in terms of functionality, and the fact that almost all our services will be using the same EPR for the first time is no mean feat, given the variety of services we provide as a mental health and community trust.
Our health informatics team have worked incredibly hard and Iāve been really proud to be able to contribute to this.
What will be the most significant development in healthcare over the next 12 months?
I think the interoperability agenda will represent a huge milestone if we can get this working. Quite rightly, patients are surprised to learn how little information is shared routinely between healthcare providers.
Humans are complex and illnesses do not respect organisational boundaries, so why should information be constrained in this way?
Whatās the largest barrier to being a more effective CCIO?
Time is always an issue when undertaking these roles ā thereās no easy answer to this. However, I am really pleased to see the move towards professionalisation of the role, with the establishing of the NHS Digital Academy.
Clinicians and non-clinicians often speak different languages, so bridging this gap will help us all to work smarter, not harder.
Whatās the largest barrier the NHS faces overall in achieving digital transformation?
I think we need to skill-up our senior leaders to help people feel more comfortable with technology, and to show them what the āart of the possibleā is. We need to be more explicit in demonstrating what the real clinical benefits are, and importantly how we need solid investment to properly resource this agenda in order to realise the benefits.
If you have one piece of advice for other NHS CCIOs, what would it be?
Work on your āmultilingualā skills ā be able to communicate your vision and enthusiasm to clinicians, IT professionals, managers and service users.
Who in the NHS do you admire the most and why?
Since coming into post, Iāve gained a whole new perspective in just how much work goes on behind the scenes to keep the NHS machine ticking along.
All the support services colleagues and I come into contact with are just as dedicated to making the NHS better at delivering care to patients as frontline staff. But they rarely get the same public recognition for the hard work they do, often going above and beyond. Thank you for doing what you do.
If you were given £30 million to spend on digital transformation within your trust, where would that money go?
I would love to invest in more patient-facing technology – being able to deliver therapies and consultations remotely would really help us manage the challenges of our geography, which includes some remote, rural locations. We already use Skype for staff meetings extensively, so it isnāt as big a leap to extend that to our service users.
Similarly, Iād like to be able to make use of patient portals to help people access their own records, contribute meaningfully to their care plans and play a bigger role in managing their own conditions ā healthcare is at its best when we empower patients in this way.
What is the most over-hyped digital innovation in health?
Voice recognition software ā Iām not sure the sales pitch matches the output as yet, and āclose enoughā isnāt good enough when dealing with important clinical information.
What is the most under-rated digital innovation in health?
Judicious use of vetted smartphone healthcare apps really has the potential to revolutionise service usersā engagement in their own healthcare. If banking can embed this with all their stringent requirements around data security, then we should be able to get there in healthcare.
As an interim step, I think itās great when patients log their own symptoms over time using apps. If they can articulate those trends over time accurately to me as their clinician, that improves the shared decision-making conversation so that they receive the best treatment for them.
Whatās the worst job youāve ever had and why?
When I was a medical student I worked as an agency support worker/auxiliary nurse in hospitals in my free time. I did one night shift in a central Manchester A&E department during Pride weekend. I barely lasted the shift!
Absolutely relentless, draining and stressful, so I take my hat off to all the staff working in those conditions day in and day out.
If you could travel back in time to meet one person, who would it be?
Queen Elizabeth the first ā talk about a woman in a manās world. I wonder how she did it in those times?
Whatās the last song you listened to (be honest!)
Mica Paris singing Ella Fitzgerald live in a music venue in Manchester yesterday – fantastic voice, great stage presence and some audience participation!
Whatās your favourite piece of technology at home and why?
Itās hard to underestimate the impact that smartphones have on our lives today. I do everything on it, from managing all my personal banking and booking holidays abroad, to accessing up-to-date clinical guidelines on the go. I even booked a restaurant table in a different country via WhatsApp recently ā we are living in the futureā¦
If you could have any other job, what would it be?
I would open a cheese cafĆ©, open night and day and Iād sell my own home-made cheese alongside some artisana carb-based accompaniments.
In a film of your life, who would play you?
Iām going historical with Vivien Leigh ā ambitious and sometimes headstrong, but hopefully Iām not as difficult to work with!